# BONUS: Debunking Pro-Choice Lies About Pro-lifers - Trent Horn

In this episode Trent sits down with Cy Kellett of the Catholic Answers Focus podcast to break down common slanderous accusations pro-choice advocates make against pro-lifers.

 
Welcome to The Counsel of Trent podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.
Trent Horn:
Hey, everyone. I’m still taking time off this week to spend time with family, to celebrate my wife’s birthday with her, but I thought it would still be nice to share with you an interview that I did, just in case you’re missing some time with me. Before the Dobbs v. Jackson decision came out in June, I sat down with Cy Kellett on the Catholic Answers Focus podcast to tear apart common pro-choice arguments and pro-choice stereotypes of pro-life people. The interview is still quite timely because you’re hearing all of these arguments now, just as I predicted you would be hearing all of this. I said even before…
Trent Horn:
It’s funny, when you go back and listen to the interview, I’m such a Debbie Downer. We’re talking about it, and I said, “Even if the Court doesn’t overturn Roe v. Wade, this is still a big deal.” You could tell I just had a hard time getting my hopes up, but now yippee! I’m happy that we’ve made this advance to protect the lives of unborn children.
Trent Horn:
We have not won the war by any means, but we have secured a major victory. That means we have to continue to push forward, and we have to do so in an assertive way and a gracious way. I hope this interview helps you to be able to do that, to give you some tips for engaging in these conversations. They’re going to be coming up more and more and more.
Trent Horn:
Hope that’s helpful for you guys, and don’t forget to subscribe to the Catholic Answers Focus podcast if you want to hear more interviews like this. Of course, continue to subscribe to The Counsel of Trent. Leave a review for us on Apple Podcasts, Google Play. That’s always helpful as well.
Trent Horn:
Without further ado, here is my interview with Cy Kellett about debunking pro-choice arguments and stereotypes about pro-life people.
Cy Kellett:
One thing that is clear, because the media has made this clear to me, is that the pro-life movement has overwhelmingly been a movement of violent people who attack pro-abortion people and abortion doctors and all of that. It really has been an extraordinarily violent movement.
Trent Horn:
Well, that’s what you’ll hear from the media, that, overall, the pro-life movement is violent; but when you compare the pro-life movement to other social movements throughout history, the pro-life movement is one of the most peaceful social movements of all time. This is a movement in the United States composed of tens of millions of people. Think about all the people who go to March for Life, who pray in front of abortion facilities.
Trent Horn:
While there are other movements around… If you think there are other movements around the country, such as animal rights movements, which are, I would say, they’re not as large as the pro-life movement. I’ve never seen an animal rights march that could compare to the March for Life. Yet animal rights, environmentalists, frequently engage in acts of violence. They’ll put steel spikes into trees when loggers try to cut them down. They will blow up laboratories, burn them down. In fact, there’s a whole branch of violence dedicated to that, called eco-terrorism.
Trent Horn:
Similar other movements throughout history have resorted to things like violence, but the pro-life movement… It’s really interesting, I was reading an article at Slate, which is an online publication, very liberal, so very in favor of the pro-choice worldview. One of the articles there, I remember the author saying, “It’s actually quite surprising how little violence there is in the pro-life movement given that pro-lifers believe thousands of human beings are being killed e…